Presidential Elections

Cheating on his wife is not what he is attacking him for. Sexual assault is the claim that can’t be supported by facts to bring to a criminal trial.

why did he pay millions in hush money for the allegations against him? if he is innocent, why pay?

Biden dealings with his son has not been proven either. the GOP in congress has not found enough information to support an impeachment at this time.

neither candidate has any moral or ethical high ground to stand on.

so violating your marriage vows and having affairs is okay?

how many times has Trump paid hush money for his behavior? just because charges haven’t been charged , does make him innocent.

Millions? No, I believe $120,000. But not because of assault. Hush money to keep his affair from the voters. Nothing about sexual assault.

Again, there is plenty of evidence, even caught on TV strong arming the Ukraine. And, the money from China.

Where have I said adultery is okay?
It’s not a crime that can disqualify a person from running for President. The question is has he repented and has he done it since he ran for President? Democrats seem to now claim they are against adulterers being able to run for president. And so have Republicans with TDS. Meanwhile, you never Trumpers are going to give us the anti-Christ for 4 more years, Biden.

You keep exposing your extreme kool-aid drinking. Like I said, it’s all about what people believe, most think Biden is old and senile, and most people think Trump is immoral and narrasitic. All the kool-aid drinking on both sides is absurd and denies reality because it’s all about defending your guy. Wrap that Trump flag around you even tighter.

Agree Fallacy of his comparisons.
Well, was Clinton convicted of criminal assault. So by your reasoning regarding Trump, Clinton must in the clear too and never did it. But you will claim, yeah but, we know Clinton did it! There is some much evidence. The parade of women! The Dems claim the same thing about Trump. The extremists on both side, will defend their guy into the absurdity, defy reason zone. Hopper is “Exhibit A”

That was at Hopscotch, not you Floyd

It’s about defending freedom and America from communists called Democrats. As Floyd pointed out, 25% of Republicans are Trumpers. Trump has gathered 71% of voters. Therefore, your mind isn’t working properly. You are wrong. People want their country back and know only Trump can do it.

As in my last post, I’m not what you think. I’m like the majority that know Trump is the only one that can protect America from the Communists. You’ll vote for Biden or some 3rd party politician who will cancel out conservative votes and put Biden back in. Call me what you want but I banter with those like you in professional political websites and know your tactics. Nice try.

Your credibility sinks with every post. When anyone, either side, says X is the ONLY person that can save democracy/get the country back/protect America from the Communists blah blah blah is maybe the most ignorant statement ever. Really?? the ONLY one? Not Desantis, not Haley, not - name a conservative ( I won’t say any democrats) NO ONE ELSE CAN DO IT in the entire country, never and ever is just, again, pure ignorance. And you said Trump is the ONLY one in two consecutive posts. Please. BTW, you were a Desantis supporter over Trump for about a week about 8 months ago, remember? And then you make huge leaps in what someone will do. “You’ll vote for Biden…” (Never btw, you should have gathered that from my thoughts on Biden, as posted, but don’t let your lack of reading comprehension get in the way of just throwing anything out there.) Or you usually go and accuse someone that they are a socialist or Communist when your arguments are exhausted. What are you like, a 5th grader?
And what the crap is a “professional” political website - like that adds credibility like: “boy, that Hopper, don’t get into a discussion with him, he goes on “professions” websites.” Now you’re just clowning around.
But keep responding and continue to show how extremist you are.

We’ve seen the rhino republicans in action of late. Ever since Reagan rhinos are bought and paid for by the big corporations who have no backbone to stand up to the Communists. The Bush republicans say they are working with Democrats for our benefit and yet the country gets worse and worse in every way. Trump was the first to simply fix what isn’t working and make the country strong in all areas. Especially individual freedom of speech and religion. He puts real conservatives on the Supreme Court. Didn’t get us into wars. Many great things including a great economy. And rhinos gang up on Trump because they don’t get their way either.

DeSantis in some respects has the same ideas. But he also doesn’t have the same in areas we need. He may just be a wolf in sheepskins. Haley isn’t what is needed. She’s just more like Bush.

And you bet I’ll speak up at Communism and fascism without hesitation. The Democrat party is the communist party of yesterday that believes in population control and thinning out the conservatives anyway possible. The 1960’s-70’s communists went underground into the universities to patiently work their way into powerful positions in education, business and political government to become the man. As the weather underground mole said, 10% of the ultra conservatives that can’t be re-educated to their side will be killed off. Call me ultra conservative, you are just fanning the flames. But we will not knuckle under and succumb to Atheist Communists.

except for a whole bunch in post civil war America…but at least in those days the 14th amendment had not been leveraged against the states, and the admnistrative state had not been invented so our series of nobody-wants-them presidents got to deal with a congress that met mere months a year and left us alone most of the rest of the time.

What a load of Garbage… Trump is about one thing ONLY, TRUMP! The very reason he lost the election, and NO IT WAS NOT STOLEN, it was because the American voters grew tired of his constant elevating of his self-importance, the constant fighting with anyone and everyone. And above all the tone he took about everything.

It went from “Make a America Great”, to “SEE how GREAT I AM!” That is why he lost, the election was never stolen, the voters cast their vote for someone they thought would bring normalcy to the white house (buyer’s remorse on that one).

I am not taking away from Trump some of the policies that he had that helped the country, they did. But the constant battles with his own cabinet, news outlets and often his own party members made these moderates “tired” of listening about it. They sent a message to Trump, and of course, he missed the mark.

BTW, what is a Reagan Rino? Are you saying one of the best President was a Rino?

Here is the facts Scott… You can do your own googling to verify this:
Most Americans who do not live on a coastline are “Moderate” when it comes to the political issues. They see a need for both sides. there are those that lean slightly left and other that lean slightly right. But all of them are solidly in the middle of the spectrum.

What has happened in the past 10 or so years, is the extremist of both parties has taken over the parties and label anyone that does not agree with them as RINO’s or DINO’s. Because they do not believe in the extremism of the party leaders.

Here in Utah, the GOP changed the way the primary voting happens from holding a primary where all the republicans could vote to only being able to vote in the caucus meetings. Why did they do that? because they knew that if they held the primary the normal way, Niki Haley would have won the state of Utah.

Utah use to be about 75-80% registered GOP, now they are below 50%, while unaffiliated, is around 50% now. Why? because most Utahan’s are moderate in thinking.

One more nugget for you to chew on: “In order to have a perfect Democratic Republic working, you must have both sides of the isle. They need to work together to produce the best outcomes for the American people”. That is what Ronald Reagan understood, and he worked hard to accomplish that.

Today it all about blame and smoke and mirrors. Those that want to work together for the betterment of the country, simply can’t because the far left or right will block anything they do.

I think you and I are about in the same boat, “Moderate” (or common sense if you prefer) in our thinking, want good policies to help the country overall.

The biggest cancer I see in this country is extremism, whether it is in politics, race, LBGQT rights or religion.
Some people feel they are “right” and if anyone that doesn’t agree with them are simply stupid and wrong and somehow less intelligent.

Isn’t that what all normal people think?

I mean, who tells their base to protest peacefully at that WH?

Term LIMITS

Let’s say that Trump wins in a Biden-Trump election. Can you imagine what Dems are going to put this country through? Think Antifa-BLM-Floyd-Shiff-Shaumer-Palosi-Newsom…Gonna be a SH T Show for 4 years.

Too bad Desantis was a corpse. Too bad everyone disparaged a good Niki Haley. This next year is embarrassing for America. If Newsom swoops in. We are Screwed (had to use a nice word here)

There is a lot you posted which has nothing to do with the fact all of Trump’s policies he enacted made America stronger and the people more prosperous and free up until the China-Biden Virus. It wasn’t just some of his policies. Not only that, the reason why Bush rhinos hate him is because he kept almost all of his campaign promises that he possibly could in only his first term. That’s what they hate about him. When he says he is going to do something he does it and goes all the way. I can give you a list a mile long, pages and pages of this if I had your email.

One other fact you missed completely, why in the world would you want to “work” with communists? You want to help them get more of their evil into our country destroying our children’s schools even more? Did the Godhead work with Lucifer to get everyone down to earth to receive their bodies? Tell me one good thing the Democrats truly want to accomplish that doesn’t lead to a one party communist rule?

Can’t disagree with most of that. This time Trump will need to drain the swamp right off the bat. He never got around to it last time. If he can he needs to cleanse all of government bureaucracies and agencies of all progressives and Obama holdovers. He didn’t do that last time. Newsome would be a catastrophe, just look at California.

He will also need to use the National Guard against BLM and Antifa when they resort to violence, vandalism, and looting if the local police won’t do anything. They are criminal organizations regardless of Antifa’s claims that they are just a movement and not an organization.

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Agreed completely! Of course, the Bush Rhinos will say it’s better to work with the devils. :confused:

You love to throw out labels for people who disagrees with you. Labels which you do not even understand the concept or basis of what they mean.

For the record:
No democrat is a communist, meaning that they advocate for the abolition of private property and the establishment of a classless society where the means of production are collectively owned.

Now some of the far left in the democrat party may be a Socialist which means that they focus on reducing socio-economic inequality through redistribution of wealth, support for comprehensive social welfare programs, emphasis on the role of the state in economic planning and regulation.

Or they could even be Fascist meaning they emphasizes the subordination of individual rights to the state and promotes a strong, centralized government.

Know your terms, Scott.

I look at people like Joe Machin who is a democrat and stood up with the Republicans on many issues. He has his own way of thinking, but he is always thinking about the people he serves (West Virginia Coal miners). There are others, but the only ones you hear about are the loud far left democrats who like to hear the wind blow between their lips.

Has how this Biden Virus? It started under TRUMP, it spread worldwide under Trump administration, Shutdowns happened during the Trump administration.

For Clarity, I am not blaming Trump, I think he did the best he could with the information that he had at the time. No one really knew the extent of the virus and how it would affect people. Do I think Democratic Governors went overboard? Hell yeah, but then again, people panic when the unknown is facing them.

Nope, they simply do not like narcissistic people who only thinks of themselves.

Yep, regardless of who it hurts or destroys. As long as the glory goes to him.

This is a subject I am very well versed in Scott. I have been working in Education for a very long time and my wife is an educator.
1st Trump put as head of the Dept of Education one of the worst people " DeVos", who had little to no understanding about Education, who supported “School Choice” without understanding all the educators have to do in the public education system.
Granted, one of the worst things in big cities is the unions, they have made education poor because they protect bad teachers, bad decisions and over the top compensation, but you go to some states that are right to work, there you can find models of how well public education is run.

The whole Common Core debate was over the term that Obama used and the far right went banana’s over. Each State has a right to look at the curriculum and determine what is best for their students. Here in Utah, they used common core math, which is nothing like what is portrayed by the far right. It was simply a different way to look at math than what we were taught. I am strongly behind Public Education, I see a lot of good in it, but then again, I do not live in a State where Education was run by unions. As with all things, one shoe does not fit all circumstances.

If there is no Lucifer, could there be any “opposition in all things” in our lives to prove our commitment to the Lord?