RB: He will destroy the country faster than Hillary. So, with that as my opinion, what would you have me do?
SG: This is where you and your guru Glenn Beck error. Nothing Trump has said on what he would do would destroy the country. Hillary wants free college and healthcare which would triple the national debt! That would destroy the country a lot faster.
Your idea that making other countries compete more fairly will not do what you think will happen. You use history incorrectly thinking past times are the same as today. Not true. We were on a gold standard then. Not today.
Yes, Trump is immoral. But so is Hillary. Maybe even more so. As far as I know Trump hasnāt had anyone killed. Beck is simply wrong. Limbaugh doesnāt like Trimp either but doesnāt go all irrational about him.
And voting for Donald Duck or Micky Mouse gives Bengazi Hillary the Presidency to get leftist judges into the Supreme Court for decades to come!
I havenāt listened to Glenn Beck in years. I donāt even know when his radio (or is it TV now?) program airs.
Trump would destroy the country in the following ways:
Creating a hostile atmosphere towards one religion. Long term this sets a precedent that other unfavorable religions would be open for attack.
Creating a hostile atmosphere towards another race.
Creating a hostile atmosphere towards women.
He is a self-centered opportunist that would seek to take advantage of the system for his betterment at the expense of the rest of the country, much in the same way that he used the bankruptcy laws to build his empire.
HE IS A LIBERAL. He favors protections for abortion. Government intervention into healthcare. Instead of eliminating Obamacare, he favors replacing it with universal health care. He favors union centered prevailing wage laws that limit not union contractors participation in public jobs. He also favors government intervention into the private sector. The problem with these liberal policies is that as a republican president, he might actually be able to get these through the Republican congress. Additionally, he is soft on guns. His supreme court nominees may not be any better than Bill Clintonās witch.
He is not immoral. He is amoral. He has no restraint. There is nothing he would not do for more power. This is a man who would sell his own children to ISIS if it gave him more power.
The republicans in this country need to look at what this manās positions are. Then, they need to look at what his stated positions were prior to running for office. He says many things that we all believe should have been long ago. However, if you look at the whole picture, he is very scary as a candidate.
All over the place. For instance, you say heās against women (I have no idea what that means. Seems like he loves women. Lots of them) but then you say heās for abortion. That is a contradiction. #1: ummmā¦no. Heās against terrorists. Heās against terrorists entering into America and thus doesnāt want refugees that actually donāt want to come here in the first place. This is actually a conservative republican position. So, you again, contradicted yourself. #2: What race is he creating a hostile attack on? Who? The conservative view is to close boarders and let those in who qualify legally. That is also Trumpās position. Doesnāt matter if people donāt like something. The conservative position is to protect our way of life which is to protect the Constitution. So far you have stated things that would be used to continuing eroding the Constitution. #4: Makes no sense. Following the law is a conservative principle. And, the worker that were saved benefitted greatly by utilizing lawful means. The rest was just wild judgment of something that makes no sense like #6. It doesnāt look like his kids are fearful of him. They seem to be well adjusted and have nothing but praise for him. Even his ex wives donāt trash him. Like you say, heās a JF Kennedy when it comes to women. He loves them. #5: Heās pro second amendment. What he can do in the private business arena has no bearing what he can do in office. Chill out!
Well, you were wrong on most points. Do some more studying. By the way, Iām for Cruz.
Iāve done my research. You do yours. Iāll vote with my conscience. You vote with yours. I also like Cruz. By the way, pro-abortion is anti-women. It is only one of the anti-woman position that Trump has.
Iāve always wondered what it means to vote your conscience. So, if I vote Trump and you vote Hillary or someone else allowing Hillary to win, that means my conscience is directed by the light of Christ and yours must be by Satan??? See, here is where it has nothing to do with your conscience. Use the brain God gave us. Use logic and reasonā¦
This is probably the most hypocritical thing you have ever posted.
I have a right and a responsibility to research candidates and make a determination of who I will support. I will not support Hillary, nor will I support Trump. I fully support your option to support either or both. I donāt care. Many good members of the church support Hillary for president. Many support Trump. Others support Cruz. All are doing the best that they can to make a determination. The question was, can I vote for Trump. I gave my answer and I said why. You disagree. That is your right. However, it is evil for you then to imply that I am following Satan for disagreeing with you politically.
As for using my brain, I am confident that I would win the battle of IQ tests.
Youāre the one who kept using the idea of voting your āconscience.ā I simply say and you confirmed the same, conscience canāt be involved. The Light of Christ or your conscience canāt give two opposing answers. Thank you for changing to using your reasoning however wrong it is
There are probably several. I donāt know if they will succeed but I truely believe that they will take the vote. That isnāt the only thing that will happen. You will see many large US cities completely bankrupt. As social services fail and businesses refuse things like food stamps because they are worthless you will see food riots. If we donāt get this under control you very easily could see a 6 to 8 year depression in large parts of the country. GDP stands for Gross Domestic Product, it is the way we evaluate out economy. For eight years under that clown in the house it has been at 2%. Do you know what GDP is required to sustain this country, have you ever thought about it? It is right about 4%. I am reminded of a scripture. A covenant , if you will. If you worship the God of this land, who is Jesus Christ and keep his commandments, you will prosper in the land. This president has proudly proclaimed that the U.S. is no longer a Christian Nation. Hmm, probably not smart to say. What presidents donāt understand is that they are only caretakers. Their responsibility as Chief Executive is to help the people to become, to achieve their potential. Obama has stifled that concept and has failed in his responsibility.
Jeff
Let me test your diagnostic skills. Trump says we need to build a wall, I am not sure that is a good idea. Why do we have about 20 million illegals in this country? When you answer the question, you canāt use a symptom for your answer. I want you to tell me the problem. Unless you know the problem you canāt fix it with a solution. This is the difference between leaders and politicians. Leaders diagnose the problem and fix it. Politicians are really good and talking about symptoms and never solve anything. I know what the problem is, I would like you to think and tell me what it is. You are usually well thought out, I want to hear what you have to say.
Jeff
Weāll discuss abortion next, if you would like to.
We have 20 million illegals here for a variety of reasons. The foremost reason is because they are poor and there is opportunity here. The solution is simple. We need to change how weāre enforcing immigration laws. We need to target companies that illegally employ immigrants. If we use progressive fines, eventually they will either get into compliance or go out of business. Then, we eliminate welfare incentives. We change the law so that individuals who are here illegally cannot access any welfare benefits, even if they have minor children who are here legally. Finally, we deport anyone who is arrested for a crime. Once the incentives are gone, most will leave. The problem was created because of two primary issues. First, we have the fact that democrats see this group as a solid voting bloc that they can cultivate. Second, the republicans refuse to stand up to the businesses that exploit this labor. Is building a wall going to do anything? No. If it would do anything, Trump wouldnāt propose it because he is one of the business owners that profit from using illegals.
Yes, I could absolutely vote for Trump. Not my first choice but NO WAY do I believe Hillary or Bernie represent anything good or healthy for the nation.
Curious that Carson, a man whoās wisdom and morals I admire, is backing Trump. I donāt think Carson has lost his smarts or morals be he clearly sees something many of us do not.
Since heās smart, he recognizes that only Trump can take it and give it to Hillary and the Democrats. Everyone else is like him. Too nice and apologetic. Thereās a time for peace and a time for war. This is our Independence Day fight all over again. Will we allow tyranny by loss of Liberty with Hillary and the communists that are backing her (Bill Ayers again)? Cruz would be a great President. But can he win because he wonāt fight. He will do another Romney or McCain.
I donāt understand these people who think Hillary is okay and would vote for a communist. Especially Mormons. I guest President Benson didnāt straighten people out on the subject.
Hillary is like a choice between Satan and Cain. Not a chance to save Liberty.
āIf you vote for the lesser of two evils you are still voting for evil and you will be judged for it. You should always vote for the best possible candidate, whether they have a chance of winning or not, and then, even if the worst possible candidate wins, the Lord will bless our country more because more people were willing to stand up for what is right.ā - Ezra Taft Benson
Have you seen or heard of any other possible candidates? I havenāt. Also, define evil with the current candidates. I can do it easily with 3 of the 5. Not so with the other two. And, what if fewer people vote for the righteous person than before? Does God then condemn us?
You stated that you didnāt understand how people could allow Hillary to get elected by voting for a third party. You also used President Benson to bolster your position. The reason that many people are considering third party votes is that we desire to follow his counsel on not voting for evil. How you apply the counsel is your decision and I really canāt help you. As for other potential candidates, https://ballotpedia.org/Presidential_candidates,_2016 may be a resource for you. As for whether or not God will condemn us for a certain level of participation, President Benson said nothing about God condemning us. He said that we individually will be held accountable for the people we vote for. Additionally he said that we will be blessed for choosing to vote for righteous individuals over evil individuals.
Well, Iām not the judge over who is actually righteous. I thought Harry Reid was but wrong there. So, how do we judge others to be righteous? I guess we can hope to believe someone is a good person and stay a good person. Reading a lot from President Benson, in his mind, a socialist, communist, Nazi or anyone believing in tyranny are unrighteousness. As far as their personal views of morality, do you know if any of them are 100% righteous? What do you think he meant about righteous people?
I think he meant that if the only reason you are voting for a candidate is to prevent a horrible candidate being elected, you need to find a candidate to support, even if that means voting for someone that you know will not be elected. In my opinion, that means writing in a candidate before you vote for a candidate that you have determined is a bad candidate.
I agree, with your analysis that socialist, communist, Nazi and tyranny are all indicators of a bad candidate. I believe that at least 3 of the possible main candidates fit well in the above descriptors. As such, I intend to support candidates other than those three, regardless of whether or not they are the only ones left from the two parties that could viably elect a presidential candidate in this election cycle.
Even if the worst fascist gets elected because the non-fascist, non-communist, non-socialist gets elected? This happened in 2012. It also happened in 2008. Evangelists refused to vote for Romney and McCain because they werenāt righteous enough according to their religious faith. How did that work out? The only question I might have for President Benson would be āam I still my brotherās keeper?ā
